- Conclusion: Notchy feeling is due to base FW 656, at lease in my rig setup.
- Comment: This notchy feeling could be obtained under any circumstances including both in-game (F1 2018 & ACC) and out-game conditions (idle state in Windows 10). It obviously had something to do with DRI setting. With increasing digit of DRI, the notchy feeling became increased. When the DRI was set to OFF, the notchy feeling was likely reduced, but some damper feeling remained, which was not felt from base FW 640 with DRI OFF.
- Conclusion: Notchy feeling is due to base FW 656, at lease in my rig setup.
- Comment: This notchy feeling could be obtained under any circumstances including both in-game (F1 2018 & ACC) and out-game conditions (idle state in Windows 10). It obviously had something to do with DRI setting. With increasing digit of DRI, the notchy feeling became increased. When the DRI was set to OFF, the notchy feeling was likely reduced, but some damper feeling remained, which was not felt from base FW 640 with DRI OFF.
You should compare the Motor Firmwares as well as everyone else right now says that makes the difference instead of the Base Firmware.
Does CSL Elite base come with firmware-updatable motor? As far as I know it does not (different from CSL E+ PS4 or CSL E v1.1) and that's why my wheel OLED displays "mot con NA" on wheel startup. Driver page does not show anything about motor FW as well. Please correct me if this is the issue on me.
Sorry CSL E motor driver can't get updated, doesn't have to do anything with vibration though. Only CSL E WB+ (PS4), CSW V2.5 and the Podium can.
But it's new to me that the CSL E can have the notchy feeling too which on other bases is caused by the different motor driver. Not sure if it's the exact same issue though. Has anyone else a CSL E and could compare?
I just noticed a slightly different notchy feeling after about 15 minutes in iRacing. Again, nothing on track that a associate it beginning with.
This time, it feels like the notches are smaller, if that makes any sense. Like a smaller bump feeling. I know others have mentioned that there is some coil whine with Motor FW 18 - there seems to be a correlation between the coil whine and when I feel the notch. I attempted to capture it on video. If you turn the volume up, you should be able to hear the coil while as I slowly turn the wheel. When I hit a notch, the whine stops, turn a little further and the whine starts again.
Sorry CSL E motor driver can't get updated, doesn't have to do anything with vibration though. Only CSL E WB+ (PS4), CSW V2.5 and the Podium can.
But it's new to me that the CSL E can have the notchy feeling too which on other bases is caused by the different motor driver. Not sure if it's the exact same issue though. Has anyone else a CSL E and could compare?
I've had the notchy feeling at the centre position with my CSL Elite PS4 in every driver since 328. I did not try anything between 311 and 328 though so I cannot comment on them.
On 311 the notch feeling was non-existent and not felt. I thought maybe it was my wheel base had an issue, and I bought a spare CSL Elite PS4 recently when my original CSL Elite PS4 went in for repair - and I tried that wheel on 335 and the notch feeling was experienced again - so i can at least confirm the issue is not hardware / wear n tear related.
I dont find the notch feel during game play. More like for example in F1 2018/19 sitting in the car doing car setups, if i move the wheel slightly left or right of centre, the notch feeling is present. leaving the garage, i cant feel it.
Also worth noting, if i move my wheel quickly at the centre point (4-5deg each way from centre) during game play, i feel a slight forcefeedback knock.. Not sure if this is belt slop, or something else. My CSL Elite was just in for Repair and nothing changed, so I assume it is normal - there was no repair sheet indicating anything different.
I just noticed a slightly different notchy feeling after about 15 minutes in iRacing. Again, nothing on track that a associate it beginning with.
This time, it feels like the notches are smaller, if that makes any sense. Like a smaller bump feeling. I know others have mentioned that there is some coil whine with Motor FW 18 - there seems to be a correlation between the coil whine and when I feel the notch. I attempted to capture it on video. If you turn the volume up, you should be able to hear the coil while as I slowly turn the wheel. When I hit a notch, the whine stops, turn a little further and the whine starts again.
Thank you for the video, I've forwarded it and hope it helps us to find it. So far we still have issues reproducing it, isn't widely spread it seems. That it is happening now with v18 too is confusing because everyone agreed before it didn't happen with v18.
Thanks Marcel! I'll try the motor firmware you posted after work tonight.
There is no question that the notch feeling is SIGNIFICANTLY reduced with v18. While driving it is almost unnoticeable unless the car is stopped, or very low speed corners when FFB is usually pretty low.
The only way I can describe the difference in feel is that in v18 it feels like a very small notch as compared to a larger/stronger more pronounced notch feeling with v22. In addition, coil whine is present in v18 and corresponds to the "steps" in the notch - while I didn't notice any coil whine at all in v22, even as I hit the notches.
Hi Marcel. I've been using the motor fw v20 that you posted for about 3 hours now and OMG I have no complaints so far. its working perfect. I'm using it in combination with PC driver 336 and wheel base fw 656. ABSOLUTELY NO NOTCHING!!!! (so far lol). I'm absolutely loving it. This is great. any idea what's different in this fw?
UPDATE: There is some coil whine, but it doesn't seem to as bad as v18. Still no notching, so that's good.
The Advanced Podium Paddles now dont work for clutch in iRacing. ..no clutch at all
But they all work in the Fanatec Properties...I can go to Position A -clutch+bite point and the clutch shows on the left for both ie. blue sliding bar, Button B shows the Clutch and Handbrake and the blue slider works as does position C ...brake and throttle blue sliders and the mappable Analogue axis shows.In the diagram of the wheel you use to be able to see the button with a blue highlight when you pressed it but nothing shows
edit: ok, missed that in the notes
I installed the beta firmware from the Advance Podium Paddles beta drives ( shows as 336 on the properties )
@ Daniel Evans: Can you nail it down to a specific base or motor firmware where your PS4 doesn't recognice the wheel at all? It was possible to go into PS4 mode but pressing the PS4 button didn't activate it and you couldn't go through menus with it?
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